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Post by Ledley on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:02 am

Your opinion?

I believe that we shouldn't sing them AT GAMES. I have no problem with anyone singing anything in their own time, but I just don't like hearing rebels at games. Just a personal opinion.

What about you guys?
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Post by Padmill on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:04 am

If they were/are good enough for my da and the older generation, then they are certainly good enough for me.

I will sing them @ CP till the day I die.

"Where are the lads who stood with me when history was made.........."
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Post by Ledley on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:06 am

Padmill wrote:If they were/are good enough for my da and the older generation, then they are certainly good enough for me.

I will sing them @ CP till the day I die.

"Where are the lads who stood with me when history was made.........."

Fair enough, but why at the games? Why not in the pub or out on a march or whatever?
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Post by Padmill on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:08 am

Ledley wrote:
Padmill wrote:If they were/are good enough for my da and the older generation, then they are certainly good enough for me.

I will sing them @ CP till the day I die.

"Where are the lads who stood with me when history was made.........."

Fair enough, but why at the games? Why not in the pub or out on a march or whatever?

Because they have been sung at games since before I was born.,.......I'm proud to carry on that tradition, and will do so for years to come as they are not illegal, nor are they sectarian.
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Post by PaddyBhoy on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:09 am

Trolling. definitely trolling.

Fucking hate today's generation of fans, kidding on they're offended by these songs.

If you don't like it then sit at home and watch it. They've been sung for decades.

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Post by Padmill on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:11 am

I will not stop singing my Legal and non-sectarian songs, regardless of anyone's opinions.
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Post by Ledley on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:12 am

Padmill wrote:
Ledley wrote:
Padmill wrote:If they were/are good enough for my da and the older generation, then they are certainly good enough for me.

I will sing them @ CP till the day I die.

"Where are the lads who stood with me when history was made.........."

Fair enough, but why at the games? Why not in the pub or out on a march or whatever?

Because they have been sung at games since before I was born.,.......I'm proud to carry on that tradition, and will do so for years to come as they are not illegal, nor are they sectarian.

I know but what is the link between Celtic games(game of football) and the rebels? I genuinely cannot see a link other than we were founded by an Irishman for Irish immagrants.

Also, discrimination and racism have been going on for hundreds and hundreds of years. Doesn't mean it should be carried on to the future.
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Post by Ledley on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:13 am

PaddyBhoy wrote:Trolling. definitely trolling.

Fucking hate today's generation of fans, kidding on they're offended by these songs.

If you don't like it then sit at home and watch it. They've been sung for decades.


I'm not trolling. 50

I'm also not offended by these songs but can see why people could take offense. I just don't see the reason behind singing them at football games..
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Post by Smell the Glove on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:14 am

Rebels are acceptable anywhere at any time at any place, all rebels are not illegal.

Rebels have been sing at celtic park for generations and I will continue to do so.

A club with a republican community from Irish roots are obviously going to sing rebel songs as it is Irish History and why Celtic was made.

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Post by PaddyBhoy on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:14 am

Racism is wrong though, our songs aren't, so that's a shite argument tbh.
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Post by Ledley on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:16 am

Smell the Glove wrote:Rebels are acceptable anywhere at any time at any place, all rebels are not illegal.

Rebels have been sing at celtic park for generations and I will continue to do so.

A club with a republican community from Irish roots are obviously going to sing rebel songs as it is Irish History and why Celtic was made.


It's not that obvious. We are a Scottish club with Irish roots, aye. Doesn't mean we have to sing rebels at every given oppertunity. Again, everyone is saying "they've been sung for years" so what?
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Post by Padmill on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:16 am

Ledley wrote:
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Padmill wrote:If they were/are good enough for my da and the older generation, then they are certainly good enough for me.

I will sing them @ CP till the day I die.

"Where are the lads who stood with me when history was made.........."

Fair enough, but why at the games? Why not in the pub or out on a march or whatever?

Because they have been sung at games since before I was born.,.......I'm proud to carry on that tradition, and will do so for years to come as they are not illegal, nor are they sectarian.

I know but what is the link between Celtic games(game of football) and the rebels? I genuinely cannot see a link other than we were founded by an Irishman for Irish immagrants.

Also, discrimination and racism have been going on for hundreds and hundreds of years. Doesn't mean it should be carried on to the future.

The only link that discrimination and racism has to the singing of rebel songs is that the Irish diaspora in Scotland over the years has been treated unfairly in both aspects (and still are to an extent), but for what reason are imo trying to link my singing of historical songs to negativity?

And to answer your question - no infact, you've already answered your own question

"I know but what is the link between Celtic games(game of football) and the rebels? I genuinely cannot see a link other than we were founded by an Irishman for Irish immagrants."
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Post by PaddyBhoy on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:16 am

Racism is wrong though, our songs aren't, so that's a shite argument tbh.
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Post by Padmill on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:17 am

Ledley wrote:
Smell the Glove wrote:Rebels are acceptable anywhere at any time at any place, all rebels are not illegal.

Rebels have been sing at celtic park for generations and I will continue to do so.

A club with a republican community from Irish roots are obviously going to sing rebel songs as it is Irish History and why Celtic was made.


It's not that obvious. We are a Scottish club with Irish roots, aye. Doesn't mean we have to sing rebels at every given oppertunity. Again, everyone is saying "they've been sung for years" so what?

When do we sing rebs 'at every given opportunity'?

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Post by Ledley on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:19 am

So why can't we sing irish folk songs without any reference to the IRA?
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Post by Smell the Glove on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:22 am

Ledley wrote:So why can't we sing irish folk songs without any reference to the IRA?

rebel songs are marielly about the IRA and its history of Ireland
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Post by Padmill on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:23 am

Ledley wrote:So why can't we sing irish folk songs without any reference to the IRA?

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Have you ever been to Celtic Park?

What exactly are The fields of Athenry, Let the People Sing when they are at home?
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Post by Ledley on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:25 am

Padmill wrote:
Ledley wrote:So why can't we sing irish folk songs without any reference to the IRA?

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Have you ever been to Celtic Park?

What exactly are The fields of Athenry, Let the People Sing when they are at home?

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What about BOTOB, Roll of Honour, Irish soldier laddie.. list goes on.
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Post by Padmill on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:28 am

Ledley wrote:
Padmill wrote:
Ledley wrote:So why can't we sing irish folk songs without any reference to the IRA?

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Have you ever been to Celtic Park?

What exactly are The fields of Athenry, Let the People Sing when they are at home?

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What about BOTOB, Roll of Honour, Irish soldier laddie.. list goes on.

What about them? You asked why cant we sing irish songs without referece to the IRA - I gave you but two examples....so why mention the other songs?
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Post by Ledley on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:33 am

well theres a list of songs which, imo, are not folk songs. Two songs up against 200?
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Post by Padmill on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:36 am

Ledley wrote:well theres a list of songs which, imo, are not folk songs. Two songs up against 200?

200 songs? talk pish.

I gave you a minimum of two songs.

Obciously you have no knowledge into the backgrounds of most of the songs, yet continue to dispute wether they are acceptable or not?
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Post by Ledley on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:38 am

Hyperbole-is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally.

"two up against 200."
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Post by Padmill on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:39 am

Let me ask a question.

If it is , in some people's opinion. that songs about a RECOGNISED Irish Republican Army, then is it unacceptable for for travelling Scots fans to wear Scottish REgimental regalia (including those mimicing Black Watch - who were notorius MURDERERS of Irish republicans during the Troubles), and for English fans to masquerade in the uniforms of Knights of the realm?
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Post by Padmill on Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:41 am

Ledley wrote:Hyperbole-is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally.

"two up against 200."


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Hyperbole - is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally - or in other words, talking shite.
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Post by CharlieMulgrewCentreHalf on Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:58 am

I didn't vote because quite frankyl I don't care. I sing a rebel in the house or out with my mates. But very seldom do I sing them at games. But I have no issue with them being sung at the games so I don't have an honest opinion on it 50
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Post by Mystic Penguin on Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:32 am

I sing them at every game.
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Post by Barney Stinson on Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:06 am

If you want to sing them, sing them, if you don't, don't. I can see the arguments from both sides, and think both have their good and bad points, but at the end of the day I don't really care much.
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Post by Smell the Glove on Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:51 pm

We have to go back in time.

Since Ireland was ever even excisted and back to the time anybody can remember doing irish history, the Irish have been under British harassment its why Ireland has its "fighting irish" name.

Ireland has ALWAYS been against britishism throughout histroy. Celtic, Hibs and Dundee united is shared history with Ireland due to British occupation for HUNDREDS of years.

Its simple, Songs are written due to british occupation and culture means. With Celtic roots of the Irish immagration we celebrate in singing rebel songs to show we are proud to be established as Celtic.

UNDER FACT! All Celtic rebel songs from Let the People sing to Flower of Scotland are not illegal, sectarian or offensive.

The only ones that "believe" these songs are offensive are british authorities while they enforcing these new bills on our support on rebel songs.

People who dont agree by singing rebel songs I dont understand to be honest as its fellow tims agreeing with pushing the bill against our supporters which is clear indecation as demanding it "unacceptable" which is really dissapionting by silencing our human right.

It seems to me that people who get offended by a rebel is a person who has NO KNOWLEDGE on WHY celtic supporters sing them.

Again as I have posted before - There is no reason why rebel songs are demed as "unacceptable" as they are not offensive, sectarian or illegal.
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Post by Padmill on Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:35 am

The singing of songs is breaking no Scottish Sovereign LAW.

It may be 'offensive' to some,but hey so is swearing at matches offensive to some.

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Post by Quiet Assassin on Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:55 am

'Rebs' do not belong anywhere near Celtic Park.

They have nothing to do with the footballing aspects, and are a blight on the mostly-decent reputation of our 'supporters'.

They ARE offensive and demeaning to the non-Ira fist pumping element of our support.

Peter Lawwell AND Neil Lennon have both pleaded for the moronic chantic to cease, yet some are so intent in bringing us back into the dark ages with these pitiful 'songs'.
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